Warren Buffett famously said, ‘Volatility is far from synonymous with risk.’ When we think about how risky a company is, we always like to look at its use of debt, since debt overload can lead to ruin. As with many other companies LivePerson, Inc. (NASDAQ:LPSN) makes use of debt. But is this debt a concern to shareholders?
When Is Debt A Problem?
Debt assists a business until the business has trouble paying it off, either with new capital or with free cash flow. Part and parcel of capitalism is the process of ‘creative destruction’ where failed businesses are mercilessly liquidated by their bankers. However, a more frequent (but still costly) occurrence is where a company must issue shares at bargain-basement prices, permanently diluting shareholders, just to shore up its balance sheet. By replacing dilution, though, debt can be an extremely good tool for businesses that need capital to invest in growth at high rates of return. The first step when considering a company’s debt levels is to consider its cash and debt together.
How Much Debt Does LivePerson Carry?
You can click the graphic below for the historical numbers, but it shows that as of September 2022 LivePerson had US$736.5m of debt, an increase on US$565.1m, over one year. On the flip side, it has US$393.3m in cash leading to net debt of about US$343.1m.
A Look At LivePerson’s Liabilities
The latest balance sheet data shows that LivePerson had liabilities of US$236.8m due within a year, and liabilities of US$770.7m falling due after that. Offsetting these obligations, it had cash of US$393.3m as well as receivables valued at US$100.7m due within 12 months. So its liabilities total US$513.5m more than the combination of its cash and short-term receivables.
This deficit is considerable relative to its market capitalization of US$823.3m, so it does suggest shareholders should keep an eye on LivePerson’s use of debt. This suggests shareholders would be heavily diluted if the company needed to shore up its balance sheet in a hurry. There’s no doubt that we learn most about debt from the balance sheet. But ultimately the future profitability of the business will decide if LivePerson can strengthen its balance sheet over time.
Over 12 months, LivePerson reported revenue of US$516m, which is a gain of 15%, although it did not report any earnings before interest and tax. We usually like to see faster growth from unprofitable companies, but each to their own.
Caveat Emptor
Importantly, LivePerson had an earnings before interest and tax (EBIT) loss over the last year. Indeed, it lost a very considerable US$200m at the EBIT level. Considering that alongside the liabilities mentioned above does not give us much confidence that company should be using so much debt. So we think its balance sheet is a little strained, though not beyond repair. However, it doesn’t help that it burned through US$161m of cash over the last year. So in short it’s a really risky stock.